tv Barack Obama on Fatherhood Leadership and Legacy AC360 Special CNN June 11, 2021 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
welcome to this ac 360 spebl. president obama mostly stayed out of politics though he did campaign for president biden. the former president and former first lady have signed production deals with netflix. they both started podcasts and mr. obama continued his work with a program he launched while he was in the white house called my brother's keeper. it is now part of the obama foundation. its mission is to provide support for what it calls path ways of opportunity to young men of color. it is a deeply personal mission for president obama who grew up hardly knowing his own father and who by his own account didn't find his way until his
late teens. he writes that that as well as how he balanced governing with being a dad. we join him in chicago in a high school where he was visiting with a group of young men who were part of my brother's keeper to talk about their lives and the challenges they face. >> are you going back to community organizing? >> well, probably i'm a little too old and gray haired to be going door to door like i used to be. plus secret service follows me around which is pretty disruptive. i am going back to what inspired me to get into public life. >> one of the thing that inspires former president barack obama these days are meetings like this one. >> hey, people. >> hey, hey. >> it's called a bam circle, bam stands for becoming a man. a program started in chicago in 2001 to mentor and support boys
and young men. >> how is everybody doing? >> the idea is to create a place for them to safely and honestly share struggles and successes, issues at home, in school or on the streets. president obama first joined a bam circle back in 2013. that's when he met high school students james adams, lazarus daniels and christian champagne. today, in the same classroom they sat in eight years ago at the high park park, high school on the south side of the chicago, mr. obama is catching up with them again. james and lazerus is 25. christian is 25. he said talking with the president back then was life changing. >> so crazy. that first period that i went to class, it was like i'm fixing to meet the president on my lunch. that was the most unconceivable thing you could possibly think of, and then my heart was like racing like when we was just sitting down and he walked in like it changed the trajectory of my life dramatically.
>> that meeting had a big impact on president obama, as well. one of the things that led him to launch an initiative called my brother's keeper which he announced at the white house in 2014. christian, lazerus and james were there. that was your first time in d.c. >> my first plane ride and that was really my first time being out of my neighborhood. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> christian champagne was 18 years old at the time. >> he sad down with us and shared his story and to my surprise, he was just like me growing up without a father and sometimes not too concerned with school. [ laughter ] >> okay. that's pretty nice that this is a black president grew up without a father.
some of the guys grew up without a father is relatable. it's not just he had it made from jump and he's a president. it's i can relate to him. >> mr. obama has been candid about the struggles of his youth and hopes sharing his story will inspire other kids to believe they, too, can establish great things. >> i made bad choices. i got high without always thinking about the harm it could do. >> you say you were a lackadaisical student of limited talent and dedicated partier. no student government for me, eagle scouts or interning at the congressman's office. >> i have to be careful not to overstate. i was not, you know, going around, you know, beating kids up. >> i get it. >> and, you know, setting things
on fire but i understood what it meant to not have a father in the house. i understood what it meant to be in an environment in which you were an outsider. in hawaii, one difference between me and these young men was there weren't a lot of black people generally at the time, and -- >> you also were growing up before that in indonesia as an outsider. >> also an outsider in indonesia. so there was mixed in with the teenage hormones and just the usual stuff that teens go through, that sense of what's my place? and how do i raise myself to be a man? and what does that entail? responsibilities are there? what obligations do i have? when i try to record in the book is the sense in which in part the values that my mother and
grandparents instilled in me, even if i wasn't always following them when i was a teenager led me to the realization around 20, a little later than some of these guys that to be a full grown man meant not acting out, not being cynical but taking on responsibilities not just for yourself but the world around you. >> helping boys and young men become full grown men is what bam is all about and the obama foundation supports bam programs in several cities through the my brother's keeper alliance. do you think you would have benefitted from having this as a teenager? >> i'm sure i could have. when we came here, three of the guys here were still in school at the time and we had a chance to have a conversation and part of what i shared with them was and i think this surprised some
of the guys, was my life wasn't that different than yours. i wasn't that different from you. the main difference was i was growing up in a gentler environment. >> in hawaii. >> in hawaii. so, you know, the violence and drugs and some of the issues that the guys were dealing with day to day were different. but the mistakes i made, the struggles i was going through were similar, and i think that it would have been useful for me at that time to have just a circle in which you can talk and i think that, you know, one of the things we all learned from a pandemic is that human connection matters. that we're not all by ourselves and we don't accomplish most of the things we accomplish by
ourselves. it requires a community. and i think particularly for boys and men of color, many of whom grow up without fathers but many of whom also live in relative isolation where the communities because of safety issues or economic issues folks don't have as many resources around them it becomes that much more critical to be able to have someplace where you can come and just say listen, i'm struggling with this or, you know, i'm confused about that or, you know, these are the kinds of pressures i'm dealing with and have somebody who either is their peer or somebody older that can say yeah, man, that's something i went through, also. i'm struggling with this, too. this is something i'm confused about and being able to talk it through. >> president obama says he found his purpose and ambition in life through community service, and
eventually a career in politics becoming a father to daughter sasha and malia gave him the chance to be the father he never had. james and lazarus are fathers now as well. >> we were talking before, the three of you guys were in the program. you were in the school. now you guys have moved on. two of you are now fathers. >> yes, sir. >> and both of you have daughters. >> yes, proud. >> so, you know, anderson here, he's a new father. how old is wyatt now? >> just turned 1. >> just turned 1. so he's still in diaper changing mode. other than changing diapers, how is that changed your perspective and how do you think about it because look, meeting the president. that's cool. but it's not life changing in the same way that being a parent is. >> before having a daughter, like, i was able to make stupid decisions, but now that i have a
daughter, i have to think about her. i have to think about her mother, her sister because now i'm the man of the house, and everything that i do is pretty much revolved around her. so i want to be that father that's always there. i want to be the one that you come home from school to that brightens up your day. anything you need, you can always come to me. i didn't have that growing up. i didn't have a father. it was one point in time i didn't see my father for, like, ten years so i want to be there for her for everything. >> fantastic. how about you? >> being a father is amazing to me. my baby girl got a great big smile, full of energy, full of life, full of joy. i was fortunate to have my father and mother together. one thing bam helped me out with is being able to speak on things because i wasn't able to talk to
my father because he was strictly business. >> he was old school. president obama checked in on him over the years since they met more than his own father has. >> what's going on, man? you all right? yeah? things going all right? finish strong like you were supposed to? >> yeah, i do. >> i know experience, excellence is possible and i need to strive for that. although, sports are important to me, i focus on my gpa and will get it back to a 3.8. [ applause ] >> what has your life been like since that meeting? you went to morehouse? >> yeah, i went to morehouse, well, for like a semester and then i realized i couldn't pay for it so i had to come back home and start over and go to western, work through that, got a couple internships and landed a job that's a career job now but before i wasn't even really thinking about going to college to be honest because i was always worried about can i pay for it? would i be accepted?
you know. i think after the first visit you may hear, i worked a little harder on my grades. you know, i stopped playing around. i was like maybe i could do something else. maybe i could go to college. >> when you sit in a circle like that, you know, the obstacles these kids are facing and able to overcome is really extraordinary. >> yeah, you know, the first time i sat down with these guys, the most important thing for me to communicate at that time and i was the president of the united states was you guys in many ways are ahead of me of where i was at your age. i just had certain advantages you guys don't. i could make a mistake and land on my feet. >> but even christian is 25. his single mom -- i think you have five or sixth brothers and sisters, family of six. you know, he got into morehouse,
had to drop out because of money. went to another school, had to drop out because he got ill. now he's working hoping to go back to school. it's not a question of not working hard enough or, you know, being motivated enough. >> and that is where sort of for me, my personal journey intersected with this broader question of how are we setting up a society so young men like that can succeed or not succeed and that's what led me to the outside of chicago. that's what led me to be an organizer is that sense that look, when i walk down the street of the south side of chicago, i see young people and they look and remind me of me or michelle and a combination of circumstance allowed us to succeed, but these kids are just as talented.
they're just as smart. they could achieve just as much if we've got an education system, a social safety net, job opportunities that expose them and give them a chance and, you know, i think that the single most important thing i learned as an organizer here in chicago was that, you know, the line between success or failure in this society so often is dictated not by anybody's inherent merits but the circumstances they're in. that doesn't mean they don't have individual responsibility. these young men you recognize i have to work hard and do my part but it also means we as a society continue to fail them. >> also, how stacked the deck is against so many people in our society from even before they are born. >> yes.
>> i heard -- i was reading the speech you gave awhile back, a figure i never heard before by the age of 3 if you grew up in a low income family, you heard 30 million fewer words than a well off family. >> which means by the time you show up in first grade, you're already significantly behind. the good news is it turns out as you're learning as a parent, kids are amazingly resilient and they can catch up, but it also means that we have to make investments to ensure they catch up. >> the other thing, i mean, i leave that room thinking how many other kids aren't in that room? >> one of the things we really liked about this program becoming a man was they didn't focus on the superstar, right? that they deliberately target not the kids who are either in the most trouble or are either most successful in defying the
odds but the kids who are right there sort of in the middle that can tip in either direction that if they get an encouraging adult, if they are able to as lazarus was expressing, if they can find words to tell their story and talk out, they can succeed and that's part of what i think made this conversation wonderful is yeah, these kids aren't like sort of one in a million. this is -- what you just heard was young black men all across this country. that's who they are. it's not the stereo type. >> these are not prodigies. they are brimming with potential. >> if we have a society that's afraid of them, we need to listen and hear them because
they're no different than you or i in so many ways except for the opportunities they have or don't have. >> mr. obama will be writing another book about his final years in the white house and what happened after, but in a promise land the president writes about the beginnings of the changes he witnessed in the republican party when john mccain selected sarah palin to his running mate. >> dark spirits lurking on the edges of the republican party coming center stage. did you ever think it would get this dark? [sfx: revving trucks] pilot over radio: here we go, let's do this. ♪ pilot over radio: right there, right there. [sfx: revving trucks] pilot over radio: g complete. how do you introduce the larger-than-life gmc yukon? with the world's biggest tweet.
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you wrote about dark spirits and had long been lurking on the edge of the republican party coming center stage. did you ever thing it would get this dark? >> no, i thought there were guard rails institutionally after trump was elected that you would have the so-called republican establishment who would say okay, you know, it's a problem if the white house isn't -- doesn't seem to be concerned about russian meddling or it's a problem if we have a president who is saying that, you know, neo-nazis marching in charlottesville, there are good people on both sides. that's a little beyond the pale. and the degree to which we did not see that republican
establishment say hold on time-out, that's not acceptable. that's not who we are but be cowed into accepting it and january 6th what originally was don't worry, this isn't going anywhere, we're just letting trump and others vent and then suddenly you now have large portions of an elected congress going along with the falsehood that there were problems with the election. >> and the leadership of the gop briefly for, you know, one night when they still had this sort of scent of fear in them going against the president -- >> then poof. suddenly, everybody was back in line. what the reason for that is because the base believed it. the base believed it because this had been told to them not
just by the president but by the media that they watch and nobody stood up and said stop. this is enough. this is not true. i won't say nobody, let me correct it. there were some very brave people who did their jobs like the secretary of state in georgia who was then viciously attacked for it and all these congressman said you know what? i'll lose my job. i'll get voted out of office. another way of saying this is i didn't expect that there would be so few people who would say well, i don't mind losing my office because this is too important. america is too important. >> some things are more important -- >> our democracy is more important. we didn't see that. now, you know, i'm still the hope and change guy and so my hope is that the tides will turn
but that does require each of us to understand that this experiment in democracy is not self-executing. it doesn't happen automatically. these values and trues we hold self-evident, this is important. we're going to sacrifice for it and stand up for it even when it's not politically convenient. >> you write we need to explain to each other who we are and where we're going. as somebody who has dedicated myself to story telling that resonates with me. are we as a country still willing to listen to each other's stories? >> this is the biggest challenge we have is that we don't have the kinds of shared stories we used to.
there has always been a division along the lines of race. we have 400 years of whites and blacks not being able to have shared experiences because of slavery and segregation and so forth but within the white community, the stories of kids growing up in manhattan and the stories of kidding grows up in abilene, texas and the stories of the kid who is growing up in montana, those stories no longer meet, partly because of the segment, the siloing of the media, the internet, entertainment. we occupy different worlds and it becomes that much more difficult for us to hear each other, see each other. the thing i learned first as an
organizer and then as an elected official as a politician was when you start hearing people's stories, you always find a thread of your own story in somebody else. and the minute that recognition happens, that's the basis for a community. >> it seems like something has changed so that it's become so extreme that we're not even allowing ourselves to get into a position where we can see that commonality. i heard in the past you talk about when you were starting out in politics, you go to southern illinois to very conservative districts. >> they gave me a hearing. >> yeah. >> i think that's changed. part of it is the nationalization of media, the nationalization of politics.
the fact is that you used to have a bunch of local newspapers and tv stations. people weren't having highly ideological debates but focused on what is happening day to day and part of it is the structure of the economy and community. it used to be a high school, the average high school in america, the average public high school, you would have the bankers' kid and janitor's kid in the same school and they would interact and their parents would be going to the same football game and would have to know each other and if it turned out there was a talented kid of a janitor who also happened to be on the football team, the banker president might say hey, why don't you come work at the bank here because he knew that person. now, we have more economic stratification and you have the media, not just walter cronkite but 1,000 different venues. that contributed to the sense that we don't have anything in common so so much work is going
to have to involve not just policy but it's also how do we create institutions and occasions in which we can come together and have a conversation? >> in "promise land" you say democracy seems to be teetering. the big lie pushed by not only the former president but republicans in congress. are we still just teetering on the brink or in crisis? >> well, i think we have to worry when one of our major political parties is willing to embrace a way of thinking about our democracy that would be unrecognizable and unacceptable
even five years ago or a decade ago. when you look at some of the laws that are being passed at the state legislative level where legislators are basically saying we're going to take away the certification of election processes from civil servants, secretaries of state, people counting ballots and put it in the hands of partisan legislators who may or may not decide that a state electoral vote should go to one person or another and when that's all done against the backdrop of large numbers of republicans having been convinced wrongly that there was something fishy about the last election, we have a problem and this is part of the reason why i think the conversation about voting rights at a national level is important.
this is why i think conversations about some of the institutional and structural barriers to democracy like the elimination of the filibuster or the end of partisan gerrymandering is important. it is important for us to figure out how do we start once again being able to tell a common story where this goes. that is not just the job of politicians but elected officials have an important role. that's where the media has to play an important role and companies have to play an important role. all of us as citizens have to recognize that the path toward an undemocratic america won't happen in just one bang. it happens in a series of steps.
you look at hungary and poland, that obviously did not have the same traditions, democratic traditions as we did. they weren't as deeply rooted and yet as recently as ten years ago, we're functioning democracies and now essentially have become -- >> democracies always die in a military coup. democracy dies at the ballot box. >> that's exactly right. vladimir putin gets elected with the majority of russian voters. none of us claim that's the democracy we want. >> you write about getting exposed to other people's truth and that's how attitudes change. what happens when the only truth that people are willing to expose themselves to is their own? >> yeah. well, look, this is part of the challenge. it is part of the challenge for social media. i think there is a lot of
conversation about how we are able now to just filter out anything that contradicts our bias, prejudices and predispositions. it not symmetrical. i have to say this. the truth is what are at least the right would consider liberal media like cnn, you know, you guys will still take democrats to task for things. i think democrats, lord knows when i was president i was getting a lot of incoming from my own base, and so, you know, it's not semimet trickle but what is true for all of us there is a great danger that we just shutout anything that contradicts our own sense of righteousness in these big debates. >> not only that -- then we otherize. >> and we demonize the other side and so that is going to
require steady effort. it probably is not going to be done at the federal level. it's probably going to involve communities finding ways to rebuild that sense of neighborliness, working together, conversations, you know, one of the things that having been out of office for awhile i've gone back to more bottom-up work to rebuild communities, to rebuild local media, to rebuild local conversations because that's where i think there is still the most hope. >> disperse the area
immediately. >> it was during president obama's eight years in the white house he began saying his name eric garner and michael brown, a neighborhood watch volunteer when martin was 17 years old. >> when trayvon martin was shot, i said that this could have been my son. another way of saying that is trayvon martin could have been me 35 years ago. >> president obama was both praised and criticized for that statement, one of several reminders for the first black american president that how and when he discussed race was something he and his advisors had to think carefully about. in his book he writes that early on in his presidential campaign his advisors warned him about being boxed in as, quote, the
black candidate. looking back as president, did you tell the story of race in america enough do you think? >> yeah, well, look, i tried. i think i told a lot of stories. you take a look at the speeches i gave in selma and the speech i gave during the campaign about reverend wright and that episode and each and every time i tried to describe why it is that we are still not fully reconciled with our history but the fact is that it is a hard thing to hear. it's hard for the majority in this country of white americans to recognize that look, you can be proud of this country and its traditions and its history and our forefathers and yet, it's also true that this terrible
stuff happened and that, you know, the vestige of that lingers and continues and the truth is when i tried to tell that story, often times my political opponents would deliberately not only block out that story but try to exploit it for their own political gain. i tell the story in the book about the situation where skip gates, a harvard professor, who is trying to get into his own house gets arrested and i'm asked about it. i don't know not having been there and not seeing all the facts what role race played in that but i think it's fair to say number one, any of us would be pretty angry. number two, that the cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof they were in
their own home. and not only did that cause a firestorm as you will recall, you were already in the press at that time, but subsequent polling showed that my support among white voters dropped more precipitously after that -- that should have been a minor trivial incident, than anything else during my presidency. >> that's extraordinary. >> it gives a sense to the degree which these things are still, you know, they're deep in us and, you know, sometimes unconscious but i also think that certain right wing media venues that monetize and capitalize on stoking the fear
and resentment of a white population that is witnessing a changing america and seeing demographic changes and do everything they can to give people a sense that their way of life is threatened and that people are trying to take advantage of them and we're seeing it right now where you would think with all the public policy debates that are taking place right now that the republican party would be engaged in a significant debate about how are we going to deal with the economy and what are we going to do about climate change and what are we going to do about -- lo and behold the single most important issue to them apparently right now is critical race theory. who knew that was the threat to our republic? but those debates are powerful because they get at what story do we tell about ourselves? >> are you prepared to take the oath, senator? >> i am. >> the president who campaigned
on hope and change sees the continued potential for the change in the next generation. which includes his own daughters. they came to the white house as children but sasha obama is 19 years old now and a student at the university of michigan. malia is 22 and is at harvard. while his daughters still keep a low public profile, mr. obama says they took part in the black lives matter protests after george floyd was killed in minneapolis. i'm wondering if as a parent you were worried about them doing so and as somebody who has had daughters who were taking part in that, what do you make of those who are now saying the black lives matter protesters are equating them with the people that attacked the capitol? >> my daughters are so much wiser and more sophisticated and gifted than i was at their age that, you know, i always worry
about their physical safety. that's just the nature of fatherhood. you will discover it when wyatt stops just being immobilized in your house and starts moving around and driving cars -- >> i won't allow that. >> you're terrified all the time. in terms of them having a good sense of what is right and wrong and their part and role to play in making the country better, i don't worry about that. they have both a clear sense of -- that i see in this generation that what you and i might have tolerated as that is sort of how things are, their attitude is why? let's change it. that's among not just my daughters but their white friends. there is a sense of well, of
course it not acceptable for a criminal justice system to be tainted by racism. of course you can't discriminate against somebody because of their sexual orientation. there are things they take for granted i want them to take for granted but what i find interesting is they are also being strategic about how to engage the system and change it. they're not just interested in making noise, but in what works and at least in conversations with my daughter, i think that a lot of the dangers of cancel culture and we're just going to be condemning people all the time, at least around my daughters they will acknowledge sometimes among their peer group or in college campuses you'll see folks going overboard but they have a pretty good sense of look, we don't want -- we don't
expect everybody to be perfect. we don't expect everybody to be politically correct all the time but we are going to call out institutions or individuals if they are being cruel if they are, you know, discriminating against people, we do want to raise awareness. a great source of my optimism, you know, when people talk about what kind of -- how do i think about my legacy, part of it is the kids raised during my years of president, there are basic assumptions they make what the country can and should be that i think are still sticking. they still believe it. and they're willing to work for it. >> hands up don't shoot! >> no justice, no peace! >> the black lives matter movement brought national attention to police reform, these young men in the bam program feel fear and distrust of the police and fear of gun
violence on the streets. >> here in chicago this year, let's face it, there has been an increase in violence. you know, when we met last time, obviously on the south side, west side of chicago there had been gun violence for awhile, gang activity for awhile. we've seen an uptick in it and also had to process the fact that the relationship between police and community is not what we want it to be and so often young black men, you know, experience police not as a positive force to protect but as somebody who is going to see you as a suspect or somebody to be feared. how has that played out for you guys both while you're still in school but also now that you're
working? >> police in chicago for awhile i was driving lyft. for a while i would come home weekends and drive lyft and i was getting pulled over like crazy. almost every night i was getting pulled over. but the first question they ask and i asked how are you doing, officer? how is it going? the first question any drugs or weapons in the car? granted i'm a big black guy, you know, with locks and first thing they see just suspicious but as i was telling the guys, i got to make it home to my family. i can't be another case where some officer have his knee on my neck choking me out. so my biggest think is making it back home regardless. anything that's going on outside, you know, i love my family. i love my baby more and that's a
feeling that you're going to feel, mr. cooper, look get home even when your eyes feel like they are about to pop out, you get home to your baby and that joy and that feeling that you get from that baby, it's amazing. it be your little spark of energy. >> i love the baby smell. i want to bury my face -- >> before a diaper change, right? >> that's mostly important to me, making it home regardless of the police. they don't know me from a can of paint. >> how about you guys? >> two of the participants in this bam circle are in thirteens. norman is 14 and wants to become a visual artist. mccarthy is 15 and dreams of being an actor or dancer and say they feel like they risk their lives every time they leave their homes. >> when you think about being in school, is this something you have to worry about? not necessarily police but just shootings, violence. you know, generally is that something that you think about
or something that is not your primary distraction? >> well, me, personally, i love like going outside. i love, like, interactions with people and but it's like in the neighborhood i live in it's very hard to do that. every night before i go to bed, is it a gunshot i'm hearing? is it fireworks? also like i love to wear -- i like wearing hoodies. so it's like when i walk down the street is somebody going to target me because i'm wearing a hoodie? do they think i'm up to no good? that's how i see it. >> james, you worried about this a lot when you were in high school. what about now? >> yeah, high school i actually used to have to map out my bus route and i actually used to have to wear a bulletproof vest so i would wear the vest to school. once i get here, i'll hand the vest over to principal ross and after school, put the vest back on. navigate through all the gang infested areas back home to where i felt safe.
>> what have you been saying -- are you still on 70? >> i'm no longer in inglewood. i'm no marquette park. that's not a big difference. >> yeah. >> but now i don't go to certain gas stations, i don't go to certain restaurant, and i also bought another vest. so it's still the same thing. it's not over with just because i'm out of school. >> right. and obviously as a father, it makes it that much more stressful. >> right. but as far as shootings, like the vest may protect me from that but in an encounter with police, what will protect me from that? what will stop me from going to jail even if i didn't do anything? >> right. so you think you're getting it from both sides. >> right. you're fighting two gangs. you have the street gangs and you have the chicago police.
>> i don't want to be another hashtag, essentially. like i want to live my life out until i'm like at least 80 or something, you know? >> not unreasonable. >> while christian said he wants to live until he's 80 years old, james never thought he would make it to be 26 because of all the violence in the neighborhood where he grew up. all three young men have had their struggles over the years and they're now building lives for themselves and their families. >> you have a sense of what is going on in the neighborhoods. how do you think we can be most helpful to you guys?
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from the hyde park academy on the south side of chicago, where we met with the former president, is jackson park. this is the future site for the obama presidential center, which will break ground, later-this year. there is hope of the sprawling campus will revitalize this neighborhood where michelle
obama was raised. and where barack obama started his career. >> right across the street, you know, we're going to be building the presidential center. a lot of our focus is going to be programming for the young people in the community. boys and girls. young men and young women. and given that, you guys have, all, gone through this program, b. a. m. you are in the middle of going through it. you have seen some things. you have a sense of what's going on in the neighborhoods. how do you think we can be most helpful to you guys? what are the things, that you think would be most helpful in young people being able to navigate their own lives, be successful in school? have a positive future. be confident that they can get to 80. give -- give me some sense of, what are some gaps that we can fill or some things that are working that we need to build, back, up? >> for me, i feel like, having
someone to communicate with or to run to, without having to worry about getting injured or shot. >> i believe, it should be, like, more opportunities. like, more internships, more variety of things to do in -- in our communities, because not everybody want to hoop or play -- play ball, play football. >> to trail onto that, i do agree. i feel like there should be more sponsorships and more things within the schools. such as, like, after-school program, to keep the kids from off the streets. or like, things that they want to do. like, not everybody wants to fight all the time. like, people want to express their selves with their art. >> we need people to come into the community. so saying like things like that. like, it's people that's my age that never tied a tie in they life. but you go into more gifted communities. they learn how to tie a tie. they know the difference for forks for food and salad fork.
and, you know, the soup spoon. >> i didn't learn that, until i got to the white house. >> right. that's where i learned it. off a visit with you. >> remember that? >> and we ate sandwiches. >> i gave you -- i gave you the tip. you do this. and then, that's the bread. that's -- that's the -- that's the drink. the b and the d. that's how i remembered so i wasn't eating somebody else's bread, and drinking somebody else's drink. >> so just being able to see things, positive, in front of them. >> it's a great idea. great thinking. >> giving each other's stories, seeing each other as we are may not be a simple thing. but for president obama, it is a crucial step to bring this country, back, from the brink. >> proud of you guys. great to see you, man. proud of you. all right. i -- i like what you are saying about your daughter. all right. good luck, man. good to see you guys. >> if we are meeting, face to
face, and hearing each other's stories, we can bridge our divides. and the question, now, becomes how do we create those venues? those meeting places? for people to do that. because right now, we don't have them. and we're seeing the consequences of that. this is the greatest idea you'll ever hear. okay, it's an app that compares
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with the tools and resources they need to be ready for anything. i hope you're ready. 'cause we are. a gross abuse of power. john berman here, in for anderson. that's how senate majority leader chuck schumer, today, characterized the revelation, first reported in "the new york times," that the trump-justice department sought computer data on two democratic lawmakers on the house intelligence committee. one of whom, was current chairman adam schiff, also, staff and family members. and we have new reporting, tonight, on just how broad the scope of it was. but before going any further, we should just get a few things straight. even though the headline reads, hunting leaks, trump officials focused on democrats in congress. the reporting, strongly, suggests this was no-routine leak investigation. none